William Saturn interviews me for the Saturnalian

Here is an interview with me that William Saturn posted at the Saturnalian. William Saturn has been interviewing people in the third party and independent candidate field for several years going back to at least 2008 I think. I have had an interest in the same subject also since 2008. Saturn added the embedded links after the interview. I also interviewed William Saturn as a result of this.


I recently spoke with Vernon, owner of the neo-Nazi blog 88Fourteen (“88″ is code for “HH” or “Heil Hitler” ; “Fourteen” refers to the white supremacist Fourteen Words slogan).

Vernon often commented at the Independent Political Report (IPR), where he became known as the “Nazi troll” for posting white supremacist materials and constant attacks on Libertarian Party petitioners. After being banned from IPR, Vernon started the 88Fourteen blog. Similar to his IPR comments, Vernon posts music videos, articles, and cartoons expressing hate for various ethic and religious groups. He also accuses ballot petitioners and IPR regulars of committing various crimes.

With The Saturnalian, Vernon discusses his activities in the Ku Klux Klan, his political endorsements, thoughts on several IPR personalities, and why he holds so much hate for certain ballot petitioners.

1. Are you the same person who posts as “Nathan Norman” or “Reality Watch” at IPR?

No. Of course, I’d say that even if I was, LOL.

2. On IPR, you referred to the bisexual porn collection on Nathan Norman’s (now deleted) blog as “hot.” Why?


I was being sarcastic. It was actually disgusting perverted filth.

3. Are you active in the Ku Klux Klan? If so, what activities do you take part in?


I am a pagan, not a Christian, so I am no longer in the Klan. I did attend some rallies, partied with the fellas for a bit, roasted a few niggers out in the woods and I love to go coon hunting still to this day. But eventually I got tired of the low IQ White tards who care more about the dumb niggers than they care about the kikes who are pulling all the strings, and the last straw was all the idiotic worship of the dead kike Yeshua and his superkike daddy-uncle Yahweh, which I quit doing and became a follower of the old Norse and Slavic gods such as Thor, Odin and Perun. I’m not really a big religious literalist but I love religious ceremony and symbolism. And too many people in the KKK these days have taken the dead kike’s gospel about turning the other cheek way too seriously, have become all talk and no action pacifists who turn around and spread both cheeks for the kikes, niggers, mudslimes, faggots, mudstizos, anti-Whites and all the rest of our enemies to stick it in. That being said I am more than willing to work with the KKK and anti-zionist christians, especially Christian Idenity followers to whatever extent they are working to secure the existence of our people and a future for White Children.

4. Are you familiar with Daniel Carver?

Yes. He was a Klan leader in Georgia I believe, way on the other side of the country from me.

5. On your 8814 blog, you mention Billy Roper‘s presidential campaign for the Boston Tea Party. How did you learn about the Boston Tea Party? Were you a member of the party?

I followed it online. I learned about it on IPR (now better known as JPR or KPR). I don’t think they ever did much else besides yak online but I thought it had potential. To be a “member” all you had to do was create a website account. I can’t remember if I did that or not but I was a lurker there. I would have become active if they nominated Billy Roper though.

6. Who did you vote for or support in the past 5 presidential elections?


Growing up I never really saw much in politics. When you grow up White and poor/working class like I did it seems like the Republicans are only for the rich, the Democrats are only for the non-Whites and nobody is for you. And eventually if you even give a shit at all you figure out the kikes are running “both” sides like they always do with everything.I strongly supported and campaigned for secret White National Socialist Ron Paul in the 2008 and 2012 primaries and I supported the American Third Position AKA American Freedom Party, Merlin Mller and also in 2008 John Taylor Bowles of the National Socialist Party in the general election.

Before that I was not voting. I served in Iraq and Afghanistan 4 years, then served a year and a half in Oregon State Prison aka Nigger University for defending myself in a street fight with my White Power Skinhead crew shortly after I was discharged. Prior to all that I was just a punk kid going to the mall, skating, getting girls, shoplifting, drinking, pills, video gaming, the usual teen shit. That’s where kike piece of shit faggot Paul Frankel and his sodomy buddy at the time James Gurga (since then replaced by his current paramour queer Andy Jacobs) scammed me to sign a bunch of initiatives even though I was not even registered to vote yet. They said that it was a petition for lower gas prices, which was a phony petition actually and then just sign your signature only a bunch more times. When I saw on TV they got busted it made me even much more cynical about politics than I already was and I never got into voting until Dr. Paul ran.

I was looking around for somebody to support after the primaries in 2008 and found IPR and lo and behold the same slimy piece of khazar shit Frankel was on there running his big hebe mouth. I could not believe it. Needless to say I did some digging into the whole thing. I had some cops that were buddies of mine from coon hunting, the service, the private security business and from being good guys who tried to intervene and help set me straight when I was a petty criminal youth, and I know a couple of guys in military intelligence that I work with on areas of mutual agreement, that are White nationalists and national socialists, usually deep undercover, that have helped me with the research, and a few of my punk rock friends from when I was a kid in White Working Class Southeast PDX who are into hacking computers that have helped me uncover a lot of information about Frankel’s interstate criminal gang.

7. Who will you back for president in 2016?


Rand Paul. He is a secret White National Socialist just like his father. When he is elected the Fourth Reich will rise. I also plan to be a delegate to the LP National Convention and work for NOTA so that zionist CFR fraud Gary fair tax Johnson does not spoil the election for Rand Paul against secret kike not so secret dyke commie Hillary. I know a lot of other White activists who were involved in the Ron Paul campaign who will be doing the same thing. If Rand Paul does not get the nomination I will be supporting the American Freedom Party. I know the guys who started it, they moved to Portland from Cali as part of the Northwest Front which I am down with. Of course your question presumes that african born mudslime illegal alien invader Baraq Hussein Ebola will not declare martial law and cancel the election which I believe is highly likely. 80 to 90 percent of the population of the world is slated to be killed by the Jew World Order starting this month and over the course of the next few years so it’s pretty likely there will not be any election at all.

8. What do you think of Robert Milnes‘s plan to send Black people back to Africa and inject Americans with the blood of indigenous people?

I like the first part. I hope the boats spring a leak and the niggers drown. It will give the fish a stomach ache from eating the nasty niggers but at least we will be rid of them. I am against mixing our blood, obviously.

9. How do you feel Robert Milnes will be as president?


I don’t think he will ever get off the couch honestly. I don’t like the way Frankel treated him and I think he has a good idea about united Libertarians and Progressives, but we should include National Socialists too and make it a Libertarian National Socialist Green Alliance. I am an environmentalist and an advocated of making government hyper-local and tribal, which I consider to be libertarian, and I like a lot of libertarians ideas such as no more welfare for niggers, pro States Rights, pro stop giving aid to Israhell and fighting their wars, pro separation of church and state, anti quotas, anti forced race mixing in the schools, anti ZOG forced race mixing in general, for your right as a White man to defend yourself and your family with weapons, ending the federal reserve and bringing the kike banksters to justice and so on, I favor a national socialist near-anarchist and environmentalist tribal society in tune with nature and its pagan gods and blood and soil, kith and kin, race and land, and honor. The national socialist movement has always been very progressive with strong support for the White Working Class, the environment, holistic and natural health, even animal rights which B.T.W. I am a dog lover and I am disgusted by Frankel and his criminal buddies being involved in ritual satanic kidnapping, torturing, raping and killing dogs and other animals all over the country. So basically a progressive-libertarian- alliance with national socialists (PLANS) to take it one step past PLAS. Oh and I also like Milnes being anti zionist and talking about deporting niggers.

10. What are your thoughts on Don Grundmann?

He does a good job calling out the faggots and their supporters (even if he is secretly one himself). He need to get over worshipping the dead kike. I don’t know the man but he is a defender of White Children, and we must secure a future for them, so he’s probably a good guy unless he is secretly a child molester like Frankel and his friends are.

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  6. Does anyone believe this cock & bull story? What a crock of shit.

    This does add fuel to the fire that William Saturn and Vernon are the same person. They are probably the same people as Concerned Libertarian Citizen, Functional Frugal Fillmore, and Nathan Norman as well.

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    • I’m not any of those people. Are you?

      What part do you have a hard time believing and why?

      Why do you claim that I am any of the people you name and why should anyone believe you?

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  7. Your story sounds like complete bullshit to me. Are you ever going to have the balls to unveil who you really are, or are your government handlers who are paying you not going to allow you to do this?

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    • Your story sounds like complete bullshit to me.

      Why? How so? Repeating yourself answers nothing. What part do you have a hard time believing and why?

      Why do you claim that I am any of the people you name and why should anyone believe you?

      How many of them are you? Try answering some questions instead of just repeating yourself like the bleating Mossad agent you are.

      Are you ever going to have the balls to unveil who you really are

      I just did.

      are your government handlers who are paying you…?

      A question better posed to you, Mossad Agent Jacobs.

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  9. Here’s an article posted on another racist site in Vernon’s blogroll that should make Vernon’s head explode if he reads it…

    http://firstlightforum.wordpress.com/2010/01/17/is-white-nationalism-a-jew-psyop-run-by-faggots-wimps-and-fake-patriots/

    Looks like another link or several that Vernon will have to remove just like he removed the link to Hispster Racist (which he still hasn’t added back despite saying he would).

    Speaking of Hispster Racist:

    http://hipsterracist.wordpress.com/2014/10/15/three-ways-to-respond-when-you-are-called-a-nazi-slut/

    Guess which response our esteemed nazi slut host makes? The dumb one, naturally, to both halves of the salutation.

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    • I read it, and it didn’t make my head explode. Obviously there are fakes in the White Nationalist and National Socialist movements, with some Venn disagram overlap with government informants, faggots, pedophiles, etc. I don’t know whether any, some, all or none of the people in that article are any of those things, or the article’s author for that matter, but I’ll give all of them at least some benefit of the doubt. What movement does the government not infiltrate, and what movement on the fringe does not attract fringe characters?

      I disagree with Hipster Racist regarding that article. I didn’t add him back to my blogroll because he posted an article saying he was quitting political writing and would now only write porn. That hasn’t happened so I will probably add him back. I stll read his stuff.

      As for “slut” I am faithful to my wife, and have never cheated. We are working on our fourth child out of what we both hope will eventually be at least 14. So here’s a very mature response for you: I know you are, but what am I?

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    on October 20, 2014 at 4:54 am said:

    I read it, and it didn’t make my head explode. Obviously there are fakes in the White Nationalist and National Socialist movements, with some Venn disagram overlap with government informants, faggots, pedophiles, etc”

    Yes, and you are one of them. Your story sounds like a complete load of horseshit. Also, funny how you are pushing the Neo-Con propaganda line about Ron and Rand Paul being white nationalists. The Paul’s were heavily influenced by Ludwig Von Mises and Murray Rothbard, both of whom were Jews. Ron Paul has had long time associates who were Jewish, such as Burt Blumert.

    You are probably an undercover Zionist who does not like the fact that Ron Paul has advocated cutting off tax subsidies to Israel and instituting a non-interventionist foreign policy. You are painting yourself out to be a comic book style stereotype of a white racist, complete with all of the Neo-Nazi crap, and then acting like Ron and Rand Paul are somehow in league with people like yourself as a way to discredit them by guilt by association.

    If you are not an undercover Zionist then you’ve got to be working for the FBI or NSA or DHS or CIA or some other government alphabet soup agency.

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    • Yes, and you are one of them. Your story sounds like a complete load of horseshit

      If that’s even true that it sounds that way to you it’s only because you are so used to peddling horseshit that you are naturally suspicious.

      Ron and Rand Paul being white nationalists

      I said undercover. See https://88fourteen.wordpress.com/2014/09/04/ron-and-rand-paul-revolution-will-bring-the-final-solution/ for details.

      You are probably an undercover Zionist

      I know you are, but what am I?

      Ron Paul has advocated cutting off tax subsidies to Israel and instituting a non-interventionist foreign policy

      All part of his mostly hidden National Socialist plan.

      Ron and Rand Paul are somehow in league with people like yourself

      Yes, they are. See link above for details.

      a way to discredit them by guilt by association.

      Naturally I don’t see it as discrediting them. It’s not what we will advertise in the campaign though. It will all be mainstream and muddled middle until we are in office.

      If you are not an undercover Zionist then you’ve got to be working for the FBI or NSA or DHS or CIA or some other government alphabet soup agency.

      So which one are you working for Agent Jacobs? I’m pretty sure it’s the Mossad but you may as well tell us.

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  11. “That’s where kike piece of shit faggot Paul Frankel and his sodomy buddy at the time James Gurga (since then replaced by his current paramour queer Andy Jacobs) scammed me to sign a bunch of initiatives even though I was not even registered to vote yet. They said that it was a petition for lower gas prices, which was a phony petition actually and then just sign your signature only a bunch more times.”

    This sounds like a bullshit cover story made up by government goons to deflect from the fact that I’m on to their scam.

    People who are not registered to vote sign petitions all the time. It is one of the primary reasons that ballot access petition signatures get disqualified. The petition for lower gas prices was what is known in petition lingo as a plebiscite petition. That is a petition which is not to put something on the ballot. There is nothing illegal about doing a plebiscite petition. Anyone can do a plebiscite petition about anything. If you signed other petitions in addition to the plebiscite without reading them, then this makes YOU an idiot. It sounds like you were like those stupid people in those Mark Dice videos who sign petitions for all kinds of crazy, stupid things, including one that said something like, “Signing this petition certifies that I am a moron.” Also, if you signed the initiative petitions without being a registered voter, this only shows that you were ignorant about the ballot access process in Oregon, which is once again, your own fault.

    Regardless, I do not believe that this is something that somebody would get so angry about that they’d still be fuming about it 13 years later, and that they would waste so much of their time smearing somebody about it years later, and that they would smear others (such as myself) that had nothing to do with this alleged incident.

    I bet that this is just something you (or your team of saboteurs/provocateurs) pulled out of a government surveillance file and then used to twist it into your cover story.

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    • Nice try agent Jacobs but the scam was aleady well documented in court and in newspapers among other things. Frankel claimed that the other six or eight signatures were all part of the same petition and if someone did read the other pages and didn’t sign everything he just forged their signatures afterwards, but most people didn’t because he said just put your signature only on the next however many pages and I had never signed initiatives and didn’t know much about politics at the time so I had no idea. He had people put their print name and address on the phony petition only so if they were not from Oregon he made up addresses for them on the real petitions. Him and Gurga pulled this scam all day long for months, had multiple people signing at the same time around their booth and reeling in more people at the same time. You probably know because you most likely are pulling this same scam with him and just haven’t been caught yet or have used your government connections to stay out of trouble.

      I am not fuming about it 13 years later but it did add to my cynicism about politics at the time so I did not vote. It’s also what caused me to investigate you slimeballs when Sean Haugh revealed that “paulie cannoli” is your scumbag criminal faggot butt buddy Paul Frankel. That was just too big of a coincidence to pass up.

      Also, if you signed the initiative petitions without being a registered voter, this only shows that you were ignorant about the ballot access process in Oregon, which is once again, your own fault.

      Yes, criminals like you always claim it is the fault of those who fall for their scams. As a matter of fact Frankel was actively telling everyone that anyone can sign regardless of age, nationality, residence, ability to speak English, much less being registered to vote, even if they told him they were 14, from another state or country or whatever else. It was all “lower gas prices” and “just help me out so I can get paid, it’s quick and easy and doesn’t cost anything and we’ll get lower gas prices. Sigature only on this color, signature only on that color, here, here and here…” You probably know all this already of course.

      I bet that this is just something you (or your team of saboteurs/provocateurs) pulled

      Yes, I am sure you slimeballs probably use it for identity theft and other crimes too. We already know Fincher and Frankel used it to stalk women, and that you had another woman you and Fincher were both stalking so I am sure I don’t have to tell you.

      Keep talking agent Jacobs, the more you talk the more it comes out how “anti-government” you are (your own words including the quotes).

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